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Proptech Pulse Podcast | Episode 6

How to partner with a tech vendor, broker insights with Vanessa Bergmark

Choosing technology vendors feels overwhelming when you're responsible for systems that hundreds of agents depend on daily. The consequences of wrong decisions extend far beyond wasted budget: disrupted workflows, frustrated team members, and months recovering from migrations gone wrong. Vanessa Bergmark has guided Red Oak Realty through vendor selections for 15 years as brokerage owner, learning that successful technology partnerships depend less on feature comparisons and more on something harder to quantify: relationships built on trust, transparency, and responsiveness.


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What you'll discover in this episode.

Red Oak Realty serves 160-180 agents in California's East Bay as an independent brokerage approaching its 50th anniversary. This longevity creates unique challenges when evaluating technology: systems must serve both veteran agents comfortable with established workflows and newer agents expecting modern tools. Vanessa Bergmark navigates these decisions without the technical expertise that many assume you need to make good choices.

Her approach reveals something crucial for brokerage owners and operations managers: you don't need to understand technology deeply to make smart vendor decisions. What you need is a strategic framework for evaluation, trusted advisors who can translate technical details into business implications, and the patience to choose carefully rather than quickly.

This conversation challenges conventional wisdom about vendor selection. While most advice focuses on feature matrices and pricing comparisons, Vanessa emphasizes relationship quality as the primary decision factor. A vendor might offer the perfect product at the right price, but if they won't return your calls when problems arise, the partnership will fail. This insight transforms how you approach vendor evaluation from the initial conversation forward.

This episode explores:
  • Why vendor relationships matter more than product feature lists when selecting technology partners
  • How to make confident technology decisions without technical expertise yourself
  • The foundation-first approach that prioritizes backend systems before marketing tools
  • Due diligence strategies that involve your team and leverage industry networks
  • When staying with current vendors makes more sense than switching to newer alternatives
  • The real costs of vendor transitions that go beyond implementation fees

If you're evaluating technology vendors, managing brokerage operations, or advising brokers on technology decisions, this conversation offers practical wisdom from someone who has made these choices successfully for 15 years.

Key takeaways

Insights you can apply starting today

  • Vanessa's selection process centers on a question that many brokers overlook: will this vendor return your call when you need help? You can find products with impressive feature lists, competitive pricing, and attractive interfaces everywhere. What you cannot easily find are vendors who treat your success as their responsibility, respond quickly when problems arise, and communicate transparently about limitations and challenges. Real estate operates on relationships in every dimension. Your vendor partnerships should reflect the same principle. Evaluate vendors based on how they make you feel during sales conversations, how quickly they respond to pre-sale questions, and whether they seem genuinely interested in your specific challenges rather than just closing deals.


About Vanessa Bergmark

Vanessa Bergmark owns Red Oak Realty, a boutique independent brokerage serving California's East Bay with 160-180 agents. The brokerage approaches its 50th anniversary while maintaining the independence and flexibility that differentiate it from large franchise operations. This combination of longevity and independence creates unique opportunities and challenges that shape how Vanessa approaches technology decisions.

Her 22 years in real estate include 15 years as brokerage owner, giving her perspective on both the agent experience and the operational complexity of running a successful independent brokerage. This dual understanding informs her technology strategy: she knows what agents need to serve clients effectively while managing the financial and operational requirements that keep the business healthy.

What makes Vanessa's perspective particularly valuable is her transparency about what she doesn't know. Rather than pretending technical expertise, she openly discusses how she makes technology decisions without deep technical understanding. This honesty resonates with many brokerage owners who face the same challenge: you're responsible for technology decisions that affect your entire organization, but you don't personally understand the technical details underlying those choices.

Her solution centers on relationships and networks. As a member of Leading RE and participant on Lone Wolf's customer advisory board, Vanessa stays connected with peers facing similar challenges. These networks provide trusted referrals when evaluating vendors, honest feedback about technology experiences, and strategic insights about where the industry is heading. She leverages these relationships to compensate for technical knowledge gaps, getting advice from people she trusts who can translate technical specifications into business implications.

Vanessa's vendor selection philosophy emphasizes patience over urgency. She has learned through experience that rushing into vendor relationships creates far more disruption than taking additional time during evaluation. Wrong technology decisions affect hundreds of agents, require expensive migrations to correct, and damage team confidence in leadership judgment. These consequences make deliberate, careful vendor selection not just preferable but essential.

Her approach demonstrates that successful technology leadership doesn't require becoming a technical expert yourself. What it requires is strategic thinking about business priorities, building relationships with trustworthy advisors and vendors, involving your team in decisions that affect them, and having the discipline to move deliberately rather than reactively.

For independent brokerages navigating technology decisions without large IT departments or unlimited budgets, Vanessa's experience offers a proven model: focus on relationships, leverage your network, prioritize foundation over flash, and never sacrifice careful evaluation for the appearance of decisive action.

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FAQ about this episode.

  • Vanessa discovered through experience that impressive product features become irrelevant if vendors don't respond when you need support. You can love a product, find the pricing competitive, and appreciate all the features, but if the vendor won't return calls when problems arise, the partnership fails. Real estate operates on relationships in every dimension, and vendor partnerships should reflect that same principle. During selection, evaluate not just what the product does but how the vendor treats you during sales conversations, how quickly they respond to questions, and whether they demonstrate genuine interest in your specific challenges. The best product from an unresponsive vendor delivers less value than an adequate product from a partner who treats your success as their responsibility.

Related episodes: Continue your learning journey.

If Vanessa's insights about vendor partnerships and strategic technology selection resonated with you, these episodes offer complementary perspectives on brokerage operations, technology strategy, and building sustainable systems:

Episode 2: Building a tech-forward brokerage from the ground up with Stacie Staub

Discover how strategic technology choices from day one create foundations for sustainable growth, complementing Vanessa's foundation-first approach.

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Episode 4: The evolution and future of MLS with Greg Robertson

Learn about technology evolution from a long-term industry perspective, building context for why deliberate vendor decisions matter.

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Episode 5: The future of MLS technology with Jeremy Crawford

Explore how MLSs evaluate technology partnerships and prioritize member needs, reinforcing themes about relationship-based vendor selection.

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Mentioned in this episode

Red Oak Realty:

  • Red Oak Realty Website
  • Boutique independent brokerage serving California's East Bay with 160-180 agents, approaching 50th anniversary

Industry networks mentioned:

  • Leading RE: Network for leading independent real estate companies
  • Lone Wolf Customer Advisory Board: Forum for brokers to share insights and influence product development

Key concepts discussed:

  • Vendor relationship management
  • Due diligence strategies for technology selection
  • Foundation-first technology investment
  • Team involvement in decision-making
  • True costs of vendor transitions

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